Palmer witnessed something horrible at his first Family Fest. What was it? How did it make you feel when you imagined the scene? Were the wringers really putting the birds "out of their misery"? Do you consider this to be a "fun family activity"? Are the birds treated kindly or humanely? Explain your thoughts.
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Justine
9/2/2014 04:27:10 am
At Palmer’s first Family Fest, he witnessed a 10 year-old boy kill a pigeon with his own hands. When I read the chapter with the class, I did not like the scene that I imagined. I don’t think that it is right to hurt or kill any kind of animal whether the animals are dangerous to us or not. I think that by wringing the pigeons, they are put in much pain, and should not deserve to be treated that way. I don’t see the killing of pigeons as a fun Family Fest because having fun would be peaceful, not harmful. I think the Family Fest should stop wringing pigeons’ necks, and let them be free.
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Richard H.
9/2/2014 04:31:40 am
I agree because it is just wrong to one, shoot pigeons for fun and two, to wring them if they are not dead yet.
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adeline
9/2/2014 04:33:11 am
I agree also I think that they should try something new for the family fest other than kill pigeons.
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Mary
9/2/2014 04:33:26 am
I agree that killing pigeons isn't a Fun Family Fest because you are harming innocent pigeons, and that they should be free instead.
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adeline
9/2/2014 04:39:07 am
I agree with Marys answer because, when I first read the part where they were going to wring the bird I thought it was going to be disturbing. In the end it turned out to be really sad and I felt bad for the kids that had to witness their parents kill the birds and other things
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crystal
9/2/2014 04:41:19 am
I agree that its is not right to kill an animal whether its dangerous or not.
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crystal
9/2/2014 04:42:04 am
I agree that its is not right to kill an animal whether its dangerous or not.
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crystal
9/2/2014 04:43:46 am
I agree that its is not right to kill an animal whether its dangerous or not.
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DonRey
9/2/2014 04:44:55 am
I agree with you about the freedom of the birds that they should have.
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Ann
9/2/2014 04:52:16 am
I agree too, because the pigeons is our friends
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victor
9/2/2014 04:53:22 am
I agree with u because birds should not get killed just for fun.CX
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Bryan (The MexicanoPablo)
9/2/2014 04:56:42 am
We Must treat the pigeons with care as if they were humans
Ann
9/2/2014 04:54:42 am
I agree too. Because the pigeons is our friends.
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Adeline
9/2/2014 04:27:10 am
At Palmers first family fest he witnessed a 10-year old boy wring a pigeon. When I first imagined the scene I didn’t like it because I don’t think pigeons deserve to be treated that way. The wringers weren’t actually putting the pigeons “out of their misery” because the pigeons didn’t do anything to the wringers so, why did they need to kill the pigeons. I honestly don’t think that this is a “fun family activity” because who wrings a bird for a family activity, like why can’t the parents just take the kids to somewhere else like the movies or the amusement park or something else so, I honestly do not like the idea of someone killing an innocent bird. No, the birds are not treated nicely or humanely because birds are like humans and they are a living thing so why do people have to kill them as an activity that they like to do for fun .
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Justine
9/2/2014 04:35:12 am
I agree with Adeline’s answer, but, what if they didn’t have movie theaters or amusement parks in their town. Then what would they have to do for fun?
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DonRey
9/2/2014 04:38:18 am
I agree with Adeline because killing pigeons for no reason is just a plain "No No"
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JOSHUA
9/2/2014 04:52:24 am
i agree with ADELINE because killing the bird is not right ;(
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Stacey
9/2/2014 04:27:44 am
At Palmer’s first family fest Palmer witnessed a young boy who was wringing the pigeon’s neck to supposedly put it out of its misery. When I imagined this scene I felt sad that shooting pigeons is actually a tradition that this town has. I also feel bad for all the kids who have to see the adults shoot pigeons and have to witness death at such a young age. I believe that the the wringers are technically putting the pigeons out of their misery since I’m sure that being gunned down must hurt and having to suffer any longer would be unbearable, so wringing the necks will quickly kill the pigeons so that they don’t have to deal with anymore pain. The yearly Family Fest event may be considered fun since there are other events such as contests and races, but the shooting of birds does not seem family friendly at all. The pigeons are not treated humanely because the shooters are obviously not showing any sign of compassion or sympathy toward the birds and instead are shooting them down for mere entertainment.
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Shiqi
9/2/2014 04:36:35 am
I really like your intro! I agree with your misery statement.
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Diane
9/2/2014 04:45:45 am
I agree that the wringers are doing something good by putting the pigeons out of their pain and misery. Other than that, I think the event is super cruel to the birds as well.
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Mary
9/2/2014 04:47:07 am
I like how you explained your feelings clearly! I agree that it is not a good tradition at all to have children at a young age witness something like that. I also agree that it was humane of them AFTER they were shot down, and then put out of their misery by wringing the neck.
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adeline
9/2/2014 08:35:25 am
i agree because the about the putting out of its misery but if they didn't shoot the bird in the first place the pigeons wouldn't be hurt at all
Mary
9/2/2014 04:28:14 am
When Palmer was four years old, he witnessed his first Pigeon Day. When I started to read this new chapter about his Pigeon Day, I was worried it was going to be very descriptive and gross. As I read on, I started to feel very depressed that people could do such an unfair and cruel act and then celebrate. I imagined it like a big party in the park with men holding guns with wide and anxious grins on their faces ready to shoot away. Palmer was just a little boy with a concerned look upon his face wondering if the pigeons were miserable and if the boys chasing after them wanted them as a pet. I don’t believe that the pigeons were miserable because, well they are pigeons and their concept of thinking wouldn't allow them to register that they are about to get shot, but more like there are inclosed and need to get out on instinct. They just simply want to be free, plus the loud gun shoots and their fellow pigeons falling out of the sky may concern them a little. This is not my idea of a “Family Fest”, but to others who enjoy hunting and shooting things, this may be a fun activity. This is not my kind of “Family Fest” because I am an animal lover, sometimes enjoys the company of an animal rather than a human since animals are so innocent. The birds are treated humanely because they are wringing their necks, which should take immediate effect before they die in pain and confusion. They are not treated kindly because if they were, they wouldn't be there in the first place awaiting their deaths.
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Diane
9/2/2014 04:36:50 am
I totally agree with you. I feel the same way when you say "They are not treated kindly because if they were, they wouldn't be there in the first place awaiting their deaths."
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Stacey
9/2/2014 04:37:39 am
I like how you are so descriptive in your writing and you convey your message to the reader very well.
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justine (:
9/2/2014 04:42:41 am
I agree that the killing of pigeons is an unfair thing to do and it is really sad because they are not harmful to people, so there is no reason to snap their necks.
Anthony Nasser
9/2/2014 04:28:24 am
Palmer witnessed the pigeon shooting at the family fest. When I imagined the scene, I remembered something I have seen before, which was a dead squirrel near my house on the road. I felt so bad that it was just there dieing and I couldn’t do anything about it. I imagine that’s what Palmer felt, but even worse because he has to be the one to kill the pigeon. I don’t think that they were putting the pigeons “out of their misery”, because they wouldn’t be in misery at all if they weren’t captured in a cage waiting for their brutal death. I do not think of this as a “fun family activity” at all. Think about it, bringing an infant child to see a bloodbath of birds flying out of the sky, and make them finish the birds off when they hit the ground alive. I think the birds are treated very inhumanely. How would you feel if you were one of those pigeons? If I were, I would think that I was just a toy, something to amuse humans, which is just wrong. Pigeons, or any animal, should be treated with care as if they were like humans.
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Diane
9/2/2014 04:39:49 am
It is so sad to hear that you witnessed a dead squirrel near your house.
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Chris.R :) ;)
9/2/2014 04:45:09 am
I think that you did a really good job on this response because you involved a lot of detail. :)
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Shiqi
9/2/2014 04:46:39 am
I really like your opinion on the family festival question. I like how you decided to state that an infant OR a child would not like to experience a bloodbath. I really like your response.
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Mary
9/2/2014 04:50:23 am
I liked how you related this event to something that happened to you when you were young. It helped readers really know how you felt about the pigeon's necks being wrung by young children.
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adeline
9/2/2014 08:38:09 am
I agreed when you said that us kids being infants witness a bloodbath and then kill them when they land on the ground alive it just isn't right
Alex
9/2/2014 04:29:13 am
Palmer witness the family fest when he was very young. He saw people shooting the birds down. Then one bird survived and a boy was chasing after him. Palmer thought the boy wanted the bird as a pet. But then the boy just killed it by twisting its neck. When I imagined this, I am disgusted. I don’t like dead things. In a sense, the wringers were putting the birds out of their miseries. The birds were hurt and probably in a lot of pain. I do not consider this to be family fun. Family fun should not have anything to do this killing. The birds are not being treated in a humane way or kindly. Killings bird in the first place is not humane. The people who are just shooting the birds just for fun are not humane.
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Ryan
9/2/2014 04:39:23 am
I agree that the people that shot the birds for fun were not humane.
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DonRey
9/2/2014 04:41:44 am
I agree with Alex that I am also disgusted by the killing of the birds
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adeline
9/2/2014 04:50:10 am
I agree but have the kids tried telling their parents that they they didn't want to live in the town anymore
victor
9/2/2014 04:57:09 am
i agree with u it is disgusting to see a bird getting killed.
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Richard H.
9/2/2014 04:29:56 am
Palmer witness a bird getting wrung at the family fest. The scene Palmer saw made me feel uncomfortable because he described every single detail on how the bird was killed. “ the boy closed his hands over the pigeon’s neck and twisted his hands real quick”, “Palmer heard a tiny sound like when a twig is stepped on” p.40. I think that the wringers were putting the pigeons out of their misery because the bird is shot and it probably hurts a lot. It is best for it to die instantly without feeling anything rather than enduring every second of the pain of the wound and die. I would NOT call this a family fun activity because you’re making children kill pigeons that are hurt and making it a bad influence as well when they grow up. The birds are treated humanely because the birds are treated badly.
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Jasmyne :p
9/2/2014 04:46:31 am
I agree with you about the bird being put out of their misery
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george.v
9/2/2014 04:53:06 am
I agree with Richard.
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Diane
9/2/2014 04:30:19 am
During Palmer’s first Family Fest, he witnessed a wringer boy wring a pigeon right in front of of his very eyes. As I read the description Palmer gave the reader, I felt very uncomfortable and disgusted. I also felt very sad for the bird and wished that the event would stop. I wanted to scream at the boy who killed the bird and put an end to the event of hunting down pigeons. I don’t think that the wringers are putting the birds out of their misery because if the people didn’t shot them in the first place, the wringers wouldn’t have to wring/kill them. I don’t think Family Fest is a fun event because of the pigeon hunting. Without this one specific event, I think Family Fest would be an “okay event.” The pigeons are treated very inhumanely and poorly. They are just targets in the sky for people to kill, and that is not a very kind way to treat any animal. I mainly think this because I love animals.
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Mary
9/2/2014 04:38:37 am
I also agree that it is not a good thing to make children wring pigeon's necks. They are practically being brain washed by their parents when they tell them it's ok to do that, when it's not. Then they grow up and they tell their children and the tradition is passed down.
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Anthony
9/2/2014 04:43:04 am
I agree with many of your points, such as the pigeons being treated very inhumanely. Shooting birds for fun is not kind way to treat animals. I probably don;t love animals as much as you, but I still feel strongly towards the subject. Hurting other living things should not be a yearly thing for entertainment.
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Ryan
9/2/2014 04:30:44 am
Palmer witness the family fest when he was very young. He saw people shooting birds and one bird survived while a boy was chasing it. Palmer thought that the boy wanted it as a pet but when the boy caught it and he twisted its neck. When I imagined that scene I was heartbroken. In my opinions they were not putting the birds out of their misery because they should not have shot the birds in the beginning. I do not consider this a fun family activity because kids can get traumatized and it can make people violent. I think the birds are treated humanely because they were getting shot at.
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Alex
9/2/2014 04:37:12 am
I agree that if children saw this at a event, the children will be traumatized.
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justine
9/2/2014 04:38:08 am
I agree because the people who kill pigeons should just leave the animals alone. Also, it can be disturbing for little kids who witnessed it.
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adeline
9/2/2014 04:41:03 am
I agree because kids would be scared for life if they saw what their parents and town does for fun
DonRey
9/2/2014 04:44:01 am
I agree with you because I though animals were not treated humanely because of the guns.
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Shiqi
9/2/2014 04:33:58 am
Palmer experienced people wringing birds in his first family fest. He saw people shooting pigeons to kill them. Those that were not killed in the shooting were wringed to death.When I imagined the scene it made me feel disgusted. l made me think very lowly of these people. they killed for their own pleasure, not once thinking of how it made other people feel. They didn’t think about how the birds felt. Kept in cages for almost a year. When allowed to fly, they were shot down within seconds. These pigeons were born with a destiny for death. Just lived in a cage and shot down within seconds and then wringed. Probably only flew for 15 seconds before death. The wringers were supposedly putting them out of their misery. Maybe they did. They ended its life so it wouldn’t have to keep living with a broken leg. The bird would not have to live with a handicapped life. Maybe they did put it out of its misery. However, if they didn’t put it in misery in the first place, then they wouldn’t have had to put it out. If they had just let the bird fly away then it wouldn’t have been in misery. Then they wouldn’t have to put it out of its misery. In my opinion, I wouldn’t think that it was a fun activity. Maybe the fun part is getting to spend time with your family. But watching birds die because of you is not fun. It’s just cold-hearted and inhumanely. it is not kind or in any way humanely. It is just cruel.
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Anthony
9/2/2014 04:51:36 am
I also think very lowly of these people. They did kill for their own pleasure and it's disgusting.
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Adeline
9/3/2014 09:00:19 am
I agree with both you and Anthony they are killing for their own pleasure and yes it is very disgusting it is so unthinkable. And doesn’t everyone who doesn’t want to become a wringer feel very lowly about the people who are wringing the birds that did no harm at all to the humans.
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crystal
9/2/2014 04:37:55 am
Palmer witnessed people shooting pigeons. I felt that Palmer was uncomfortable watching people shooting the birds. The wringers were putting the birds “out of there misery” by wringing there necks or shooting them. To me I dont consider this to be a “fun family activity” because there killing the pigeons and thats sad for me. To them its a traditions for wringing the pigeons but to Palmer he wasnt expecting this and was not used to it. In my opinion the birds are being treated humanely because people are killing and the birds didnt harm them in any way.
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Adeline
9/2/2014 08:40:23 am
Me too I don't think that this should even be called a "fun family activity" at all
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Chris.R :) ;)
9/2/2014 04:38:27 am
wringer response
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Anthony
9/2/2014 04:57:55 am
Animal cruelty is a good way to describe the situation. Pigeons getting hurt for enjoyment is wrong.
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adeline
9/8/2014 08:46:31 am
I agree with Anthony and Chris.R
jasmyne jernagin
9/2/2014 04:39:41 am
The horrible thing that palmer saw was a bird being wringed.When I imagined this scene this made me feel sad because seeing the animal being killed is very sad and palmer is too young to see a bird getting wringed. The wringers were putting the birds out of their misery because the bird was wobbly with pain from being shot. I don’t think this is a fun family activity because all you can see are birds being killed. The birds are not being treated kindly because their being shot.
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crystal
9/2/2014 04:48:39 am
I agree with it not being a “fun family activity”
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Adeline
9/2/2014 08:42:28 am
I agree when you said that Palmer was too young to young to experience this and to even do this for his tenth birthday that is just wrong
Fannie
9/2/2014 04:49:35 am
I agree, I also think Palmer is too young to see a bird getting wrung and that it's not a fun family activity.
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Adeline
9/3/2014 08:36:04 am
I agreed with Jasmyne when she said that Palmer was too young to even witness a bird get wringed. I don’t exactly agree when you said that they were getting put out of their misery because i mean if the bird is already shot and everything can’t someone just go and pick up the pigeon and then help them like if you saw a hurt animal on the streets wouldn’t you go and help it get better?
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Fannie
9/2/2014 04:39:48 am
At the Family Fest, Palmer witnessed a boy wringing a pigeon. While imagining this scene, it made me feel pity for the pigeon. The wringers were not putting the birds out of their misery, that was just an excuse from Palmer’s mom. You never know if the pigeon might want to continue to live even if they are hurt/injured. Wringing them will just make their injury worse/dead. This may be a “fun family activity” for some people, but for me I don’t consider this fun at all. If I had a choice to do the “activity” or to stay at home, I would rather stay at home. The birds aren’t treated kindly at all. At the beginning of the event they were shot, and after that, they had their necks wrung. If they were treated kindly, they wouldn't have had this event at all.
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VICTOR
9/2/2014 04:42:15 am
I think think Palmer worst witness is when Palmer sees a pigeon get put out of its misery. Palmer felt very mad and sad that the pigeons were getting killed and he witnessed it.It made me feel very sad that the pigeons were getting hurt. Also that Palmer was sad for the paging because the pigeons were getting killed without doing anything.Yes the wringers were putting the birds out of their misery, because if the people shot the bird they would fall and the wringers would finish the birds and kill them.I honestly don't consider this family fun, because you're taking an animal's lives away and the birds didn't even harm the family.I think the birds are treated humanely. because they are being treated with animal torture and it is not fair.
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joshua
9/2/2014 04:43:37 am
At Palmer’s first family festival, he saw people wringing the birds to put it out of its misery. I felt sad and horrible for the birds and disgusted at the people because they shouldn’t kill birds or anything that is alive.That is just wrong! I don’t think the wringers were really putting the birds “out of its misery”. Its a family fest. A tradition where the shoot pigeons. I don’t think its a “fun family activity” because some people doesn’t like to kill bird like Palmer. It is just sad to see something die. The birds are treated humanely because they are wringing the bird’s neck.
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Diane
9/2/2014 04:50:03 am
I love the part where you say "That is just wrong!" I agree with you completely as well.
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Hector
9/2/2014 04:55:51 am
I agree becuase is that it is good answer for wringer
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Edwin (ejacobo0215)
9/2/2014 05:02:36 am
I like the way you expressed yourself towards the birds
Adeline
9/2/2014 08:45:15 am
I agree with you totally when you said that "It is just sad to see something die" also yeah what if some of the kids are like Palmer and don't want to kill a bird.
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ann
9/2/2014 04:46:25 am
Palmer witnessed something horrible at his first Family Fest. Is shooting pigeons. I can feel imagined the scene the pigeons are very pain, sad, fear. And the people always says :“wringer! wringer! wringer!”Were the wringers really putting the birds "out of their misery"? No, they not. The pigeons is just fly on the sky, they happy, but the wringer shooting pigeons, the wringer think they but the pigeons “out of their misery”, but it not. I consider this activity is not fun, is sad, this activity put the pigeons in the death. We must to be treated kindly or humanely. Because the birds is we friends, they are life, we can kill they.
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Hector
9/2/2014 04:48:47 am
the boy saw the people shooting the bird. then people were calling Wringer Wringer and other boy was chasing and caught it. and the boy closed his hands over the pigeons neck and twisted his hands real quick-like that. palmer no like that because they will kill that bird
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Bryan (The MexicanoPablo)
9/2/2014 04:50:58 am
Palmer witnessed a pigeon getting shot down and a wringer putting it “out of it’s misery”.This scene made feel sad because Palmer really loved birds.The Wringers ARE theoretically putting out the pigeons misery because if they left them alive,the pigeons would suffer from the pain and have a slow death.I don’t consider this as a good family event for my family but, for some other families it’d be considered a good family event.These birds are treated humanely because the birds are captured and then shot at by people for “fun”.
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george.v
9/2/2014 04:51:38 am
The horrible thing Palmer saw was the pigeon being wringed .The scene was gruesome and was not something you would want to look at. The family fest was not fun because the pigeon was being killed the wringers are not really being put out of it’s misery it was simply killed for fun. These birds are treated humanely because of being killed for food and fun.
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Evelyn
9/2/2014 05:02:01 am
Nice job George, I like the vocabulary "gruesome", I forgot about that word.
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Edwin (ejacobo0215)
9/2/2014 04:56:36 am
Palmer saw that somebody started shooting at the pigeons. This made Palmer very sad because he doesn’t agree with the idea of harming animals. I think that its not if they want to, it’s because they have to to provide them to suffering. I think that this not a fun activity to celebrate. The birds are being treated humanely because if they were treated kindly, they wouldn’t been shooted or make them feel pain.
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Evelyn
9/2/2014 05:00:11 am
When Palmer was four years old, he witnessed the death of a pigeon. The pigeon was shot and when it fell, a wringer boy twisted it’s neck, not even thinking about what he was doing to the poor pigeon. It was humane when he put the pigeon out of his misery, but the point is that the pigeon was not in misery because of a natural cause, it was shot. Why could they do this to such a helpless, harmless, little bird? It most likely had a family somewhere waiting for it to come home with food. It is inhumane to keep a bird in a box and on top of that, shoot it. In a way, it was humane because they killed it after it was wounded, but it’s the reason why it was hurt that bothers me. Hopefully Palmer tries to prevent the shooting… FOR THE BIRDS!!!!
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Bryan (The MexicanoPablo)
9/2/2014 05:01:48 am
Palmer witnessed a pigeon getting shot down and a wringer putting it “out of it’s misery”.This scene made feel sad because Palmer really loved birds.The Wringers ARE theoretically putting out the pigeons misery because if they left them alive,the pigeons would suffer from the pain and have a slow death.I don’t consider this as a good family event for my family but, for some other families it’d be considered a good family event.These birds are treated humanely because the birds are captured and then shot at by people for “fun”.
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sunny
9/2/2014 05:03:12 am
Palmer witnessed something horrible at his first Family Fest.The boy see the pigeon is hurried across the grass., and a boy chasing after,running and reaching. The little palmer think “The boy wants it for a pet, and it is not good.” I think this boy want kill the pigeon, and I don’t like they kill the pigeon.
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